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KRnet - Mailinglist for KR Experimental Aircraft Builders and Pilots


updated December 25th, 2008 (added David Goodmans' KR2S)

KRnet is a free Internet mailinglist devoted to helping KR builders and pilots to construct and fly their KR aircraft more safely and efficiently. This is THE place to get your KR questions answered. There are over 650 KR builders and pilots available to help you with problems that you may have concerning construction. It's a friendly group of folks who thrive on helping others. There are about 5-20 messages posted to the net each day. If you can't find it here, you're not gonna find it. To join, send an empty email message to
krnet-join@mylist.net You'll receive a "confirmation" email within a minute or so, to which you must reply for your subscription to take effect. You must be a member to post messages to the list. Again, this is completely free of charge, and we make a point of keeping it "advertising free". Once you are a "confirmed" member, you may make adjustments to your account (using the password sent to you in the confirmation message) such as to change your account to the digest version (which will put all messages into one message per day to reduce email). If you decide you'd like to UNsubscribe, simply send a message to krnet-leave@mylist.net . Other information on the list itself and maintenance of your KRnet account can be found at http://www.krnet.org/info.html.

The KRnet Search Engine is THE way to go to find specific KR information in a hurry. Just enter a subject and hit "submit" and you'll instantly search all the way back to 1996! Please search the archives for information on specific topics before posting questions to the list. It's considered poor form to join and start asking questions that have already been answered 100 times before.


Here's Netherlander Marcel Driessen flying his KR2S.

The "Official" 2008 KR Gathering will be held at Mt. Vernon, Illinois, and will again be hosted by Larry Flesner. The dates will be September 19th and 20th, 2008. More details can be found at www.KRGathering.org. You can expect about 10-20 KRs to fly in for the Gathering, depending on the weather (and whether or not the FAA has shut down general aviation at the time). Last year was a record, with 21 flying KRs in attendence. 2008 should be even better, as even more KRs are flying for the first time. This is THE place to put your hands on real KR aircraft so don't miss it! If you're light and lucky, you might just get a ride in one. You won't likely forget it soon either. The die-hards will arrive on Thursday, the 18th...

The links below feature various KR projects under construction to provide some insight into the KR building process. There are also links to finished and flying KRs, just in case you need a little inspiration. You can also search the KRnet website for keywords:

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KR2S Projects under Construction:

  • Mark Langford's highly modified KR2S and Online Builder's Manual (flying, but still under construction!)
  • Michael Mims' highly modified "Sky Pig" KR2S
  • John Bryhan's KR2S
  • Don Reid's radical KR2XL
  • Ron Eason's KR2X
  • Haris Ashraf's KR2S
  • Carlton Blandford's KR2
  • Lynn Hyder's narrowed "1930's" KR2
  • Owen MacPherson's KR2
  • Bud Midkiff's KR2
  • Jack Cooper's KR2S
  • Rick Hubka's KR2S
  • Danny Livingstone's South African KR2S
  • Dave Mullins' KRXL3
  • Stefan Belatchev's French KR2S
  • Tim Brown's KR2S
  • Argentina's Eduardo Barros' radical fuselage KR2
  • a newer Eduardo Barros' KR2 site
  • Billy McFarland's KR2
  • Bob Lee's KR2
  • Herbert Fürle's KR2S
  • Alessandro Pecorara's Italian KR2S
  • Rick Junkin's KR2S
  • Kobus de Wet's KR2
  • Kerry Miller's KR2S
  • Shane Daly's KR2S
  • Tim Brown's KR2S
  • Phillip Matheson's KR2
  • Bernie Wunder's KR2S
  • Steve Andersen's KR2S
  • Rick Wilson's KR2
  • Lee VanDyke's KR2 refurb job
  • Dean Cooper's KR2S
  • Ross Evans' Australian KR2S
  • Mikko Nikunen's KR-1B, Finland
  • Matt Elder's KR1-XL
  • Duncan's KR2S
  • Bob Glidden's KR2S
  • Eric Pitts' "Dr. Dean" KR2S
  • Jaco Swanepoel's South African KR2S
  • Ron Smith's KR2SSXL
  • Keith Crawford's KR2S
  • John Bavington's Australian KR2S
  • Glenda McElwee's KR2
  • Bob Sauers' KR2S
  • Sid Woods' KR2
  • Kenneth Gerow's KR2
  • John Godwin's KR2S
  • Rick Farley's KR2S
  • Benito Baldominos Baldominos' Spanish "KR2SB"
  • Rick Human's KR2
  • Josh Choitz's KR2S
  • Darren Crompton's KR2S
  • Tom Brady's KR2S
  • Scott Watt's "KR Super 2"
  • Wayne Bone's Australian KR2S+
  • Dubi Gefen's Isreali KR2S
  • Neal Hornung's KR2

    Completed KRs, with most recent completions at the bottom:

  • Tom Crawford's award winning KR2
  • Adrian Carter's KR2
  • Ron Lee's (built by Roy Marsh) KR2S
  • Bobby Muse's KR2
  • Lester Palmer's KR2
  • Troy Petteway's KR2
  • Ken Thomas's KR2S
  • Bill Reents' KR1
  • Darrin West's KR Page
  • Jim Hill's KR2 N58DR
  • David Stuart's KR2S (New Zealand)
  • Steve Trentman's turbine powered KR2T
  • Graham Schott's KR2 (Australia)
  • Joe Beyer's KR2
  • Orma Robbins' KR2
  • Petros Avramidis' Greek KR2
  • Dean Selby's KR2S
  • Chris Gardiner's KR2S
  • Chuck Scrivner's KR2
  • Al Friesen's KR2
  • Jeff York's KR2
  • Bob Jennings' KR2
  • Leo Adrena's KR2
  • Kevin Kelly's KR100
  • Bill Crawford's KR2S
  • Charlie Reeves' KR2
  • Christian Kogelmann's KR2S
  • Jim Faughn's KR2
  • Willie Wilson's KR2
  • Owen MacPherson's KR2
  • Brian Kraut's KR2
  • Ken Atkinson's British KR2
  • Larry Flesner's 0-200 powered KR2S
  • Garry Morgan's Australian KR2SS
  • Steve Jones' award winning KR2
  • Antonio Simone's KR1, Argentina
  • Steve Makish's KR2
  • Bill Page's KR2
  • John Martindale's Australian KR2S
  • Bill Clapp's KR2S
  • Barry Kruyssen's KR2
  • Mark Jones' KR2S
  • Mark Langford's highly modified KR2S
  • Lee VanDyke's KR2 refurb job
  • Ken Warland's Australian KR2S
  • Pat Russo's KR2
  • Jeff York's KR2
  • Franco Negri's Italian KR2
  • Jeff Scott's KR2S
  • Joe Horton's KR2S
  • Robin Wills' KR2
  • Serge Vidal's South African KR2
  • Phil Bookman's British KR2
  • Matt Hurley's Aussie KR2
  • Jose Luis' Argentine KR2
  • Dan Heath's KR2S
  • Marcel Driessen's KR2S
  • Pete Brautigam's KR2S
  • Rob Schmidt's KR2S
  • Chip Vaughn's KR2
  • Jim Raleigh's KR2
  • Dennis Dyer's KR2
  • Steve Vitrella's KR2S
  • Ken Jones' KR2 "Porkopolis Pig"
  • David Goodmans' KR2S

    Events

  • '94 Columbia, TN Gathering photos
  • '95 Columbia, TN Gathering photos
  • '96 Pine Bluff, Arkansas Gathering photos
  • '97 Perry, OK Gathering photos
  • '98 Columbia, TN "East Coast Gathering" photos
  • '98 Perry, OK Gathering photos
  • '99 Lake Barkley, KY Gathering photos
  • 2000 Oshkosh photos
  • 2000 Lake Barkley, KY Gathering photos
  • 2001 Oshkosh photos
  • 2001 Pine Bluff, Arkansas KR Gathering photos .
  • 2002 Red Oak, Iowa KR Gathering photos .
  • 2003 Red Oak, Iowa KR Gathering photos.
  • 2004 Mount Vernon Gathering photos.
  • 2005 Mount Vernon Gathering photos.
  • 2006 Mount Vernon Gathering photos by EL Miller and Glenda McElwee.
  • 2008 KR Gathering photos


    This is Joe Horton's 3100cc Corvair powered KR2S as seen at the 2006 KR Gathering. Photo by Dave Mullins (the guy with the huge honkin' lense!).


    This is Richard Shirley's KR-1. This thing is nothing short of totally awesome, and his piloting skills are incredible, as well. There are more photos and details located on the 2001 KR Gathering web page.


    Here's Marty Roberts, Steve Alderman, and Jim Faughn flying formation near the Red Oak Iowa airport during the 2003 KR Gathering. There are lots more photos located on the 2003 KR Gathering web page. The "Official" 2008 KR Gathering will be held at Mt. Vernon, Illinois, and will again be hosted by Larry Flesner. The dates will be September 19th and 20th, 2008. More details can be found at www.KRGathering.org. You can expect about 10-20 KRs to fly in for the Gathering, depending on the weather (and whether or not the FAA has shut down general aviation at the time). Last year was a record, with 21 flying KRs in attendence. 2008 should be even better, as even more KRs are flying for the first time. This is THE place to put your hands on real KR aircraft so don't miss it! If you're light and lucky, you might just get a ride in one. You won't likely forget it soon either. The die-hards will arrive on Thursday, the 18th...
    This is Aussie Alan Buzza in his retractable KR2, flying formation with Peter Gilbert in his BD5 over Fremantle Harbor near Perth.

    There is a KRnet FAQ that is full of building tips which you may visit without joining. There is a lot of stuff there, so please check it out before asking the same old questions on KRnet.

    Orma Robbins created an Excel spreadsheet of KR Info, (and there's also a web viewable HTML version) detailing performance numbers (speed, stall, weight, prop, engine, carb, etc) of many of today's flying KRs.

    There is a directory of US KR builders located at http://krnet.scottstanton.us/cgi-bin/krnet_list.pl .

    There is a KRnet member's "Yearbook", including links to their projects, for quick reference. It's way out of date, but maybe I can do something with it soon.

    The KRnet Archives is run by John Bouyea, and has almost all of KRnet's correspondence since the earliest days.

    The KRnet list archive site is a list of all email messages posted in the last few years, listed chronologically.

    A low-drag airfoil was recently designed specifically for the KR2S in a cooperative effort between several KRnetters and the University of Illinois. See details at the AS504x Airfoil Site

    Dan Heath has posted several KR Weight and Balance spreadsheets, among other things.

    Ernie Koppe, originator and Editor of the KR Newsletter, has graciously allowed us to publish HIS newsletters to the web. Mark Lougheed has taken the time to scan all of them (87 issues!) and posted them on John Bouyea's KR Archive site at http://www.bouyea.net/digests/ , specifically at http://www.bouyea.net/digests/kr01-87.pdf .



    A CD consisting of all 27 years of issues, saved in searchable PDF format, is available for $49 by contacting Larry Capps at:
    KRNewsletter CD
    10S485 Book Road
    Naperville, IL 60564

    Don Reid has scanned and posted all known Sport Aviation articles dealing featuring KRs. While you're there, check out the rest of his highly engineered KR-2XL!

    Rick Junkin, a professional F-15 test pilot, has published a KR2S Flight Test Plan especially for the KR2S. You'd be crazy not to read this before flight testing your KR. This is truly excellent work!

    If you are getting ready to make your first flight, be sure to check out Jim Faughn's "How to make a Perfect KR Landing" site.

    Rob Schmitt has posted a KR2S Pilot Operating Handbook, provided as a template for others to use.

    KROnline is a FREE online electronic KR Newsletter devoted to sharing information with other KR builders and pilots in a timely manner. It is chock full of valuable information gained from the experience of many web oriented KR builders. Check it out!

    There's a Word document that details KR accidents listed in the FAA's database, at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/KRaccidents.doc .

    There is also a "CorvAircraft" list devoted to the Corvair engines in aircraft. You may subscribe by visiting http://mylist.net/listinfo/corvaircraft and subscribing online. There are several Corvair experts on the list, and experimenters working to install one in a Dragonfly, a Tailwind, KR2s, Christavia, AirCamper, and several other homebuilt aircraft. Larry Capp's excellent CorvAircraft Search Engine is located at http://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch . There's a LOT more info on my Corvair webpage at Corvair webpage.

    There is an alternative aircraft engine list devoted to the use of VW and 1/2 VW engines, as well as other automotive and motorcycle engines, in aircraft. For information on how to join, as well as access to their archives, visit the VW Aircraft Engine List Webpage. This is very good stuff for those interested in Volkswagen engines especially.


    Suppliers of KR parts:

    Rand Robinson Engineering, 7071 Warner Ave, #F, PMB 724 Huntington Beach, CA 92647-5492 (714) 898-3811
    Manufacturer of the KR1, KR2 and KR2S plans and kits. No email available, and they don't take credit cards!

    Great Plains Aircraft, P.O. Box 545, Boystown, NE 68010 (402) 493-6507
    VW based aircraft powerplants and accessories. Lots of good stuff!

    Corvair (Aircraft Engine) Authority, P.O. Box 290802, Port Orange, FL 32129. (904-451-3676)
    Corvair Conversion Manual, and all the parts to do the job

    Diehl Aero-Nautical, 1855 North Elm, Jenks, OK 74037 (918) 299-4445
    Manufacturer of wing skins, VW engine accessory cases, tricycle and conventional landing gear...

    Tracy O'Brien, LLC, 156 Bunker Creek Road, Chehalis, WA 98532 360-748-4089
    Supplier of KR-sized aircraft brake systems.

    Grove Aircraft Company, 1860 Joe Crosson Drive, El Cajon, CA 92020, (1-888-432-7534)
    Aluminum landing gear for KR aircraft

    Ed Sterba Props, 513 68 Street, Holmes Beach, FL 34217, (941)-778-3103.
    Wooden propellers for VWs and Corvairs.

    Total Engine Concepts, 2391 Old Dixie Highway, Riviera Beach, FL 33404 (561) 842-2813
    VW based powerplants and Accessories

    Revmaster Aviation, 7146 Sante Fe Avenue East, Hesperia, CA 92345 (760) 244-3074
    VW based aircraft powerplants and accessories, cowlings

    Palmer's KR Machine Shop, 3247 High Lark, Dallas, TX 75234
    Aluminum, steel, and fiberglass KR parts, many original and unique

    Wicks Aircraft, , 410 Pine St., Highland, IL 62249 (618) 654-7447
    KR kits and components and many other aircraft parts.

    Aircraft Spruce and Specialty, 201 W. Truslow Ave., Fullerton, CA 92632 (800) 824-1930
    KR kits and components and many other aircraft parts

    Wag Aero, 1216 North Road, Lyons, WI, 53148 (800) 558-6868
    Wide selection of certified and homebuilt aircraft parts

    Zenith Fuel Systems,
    Carburetor source

    Ellison Fluid Systems,
    Carburetor source (one of the best, and most expensive).

    Aero-Carb,
    Another slide carburetor source (new on the scene and relatively inexpensive).

    Advanced Composite Materials,
    The most inexpensive source I know of to buy 5.85 ounce 48" wide carbon fiber ($17 per yard).

    Sport Flyer's Internet Resources
    Everything else you'd ever need to find to build an airplane...

    The KR Gathering videos are available for $25 from Video Bob at Omega Productions, 1050 Parkhurst NW, Grand Rapids, MI 49504. Or you can call him at (616)774-3913. Bob accepts checks or money orders. This is as close as you can get without having been there. The 1997 and 1998 videos are still available and feature interviews with KR builders and pilots, a detailed look at many of the KRs attending, lots of flying, and a ride with Marty Roberts in his 0-200 powered KR2. This video is great for getting sufficiently fired up to start or finish building your KR! Another video detailing the antennas, composites, woodworking, and finishing seminars that were held at the Gathering is also available.

    Related sites:

  • Mark Lougheed's Dragonfly canopy page (excellent!)
  • NACA Document Library Online!
  • Michele Boland's Aviation Page
  • N-Number Database
  • Sport Flyer's Internet Resources
  • AvWeb
  • Landings.com
  • Bob Hoover's "sermons" on VW engines
  • Bob Hoover's Blog
  • Hoax and Virus web site (not really related, but some KRnetters need to visit here before posting about the latest scare!).


    Jim Hill's KR2 doing 200mph flyby at Hazel Green airport, trying to get a better look at the windsock. Jim's KR2 has now been stretched and converted to tri-gear.


    This is John Schaffer's fully retractable KR2SS.


    This is Marty Roberts in his 0-200 powered KR2. I took this picture from Jim Faughn's equally nice KR2. There's also a larger "wallpaper" version available.


    This is Rick Lanning's KR2, the oldest flying KR, originally built by Dan Diehl in 1976.


    Steve Glover flew his flawless KR2 all the way from California to make the 2004 Gathering.

    This is Troy Petteway's O-200 powered KR2. It will do 230 mph flat out, mostly because of attention to aerodynamic detail. A careful study of this photo will show you how this plane differs from most other KRs. He is also flying the new AS504x airfoil.


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