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KRnet - Mailinglist for KR Experimental Aircraft Builders and Pilots


updated July 2014 - Mike Sylvester's KR2S


KRnet is a free Internet mailinglist devoted to helping KR builders and pilots to construct and fly their KR aircraft more safely and efficiently. This is THE place to get your KR questions answered. There are over 800 KR builders and pilots available to help you with problems that you may have concerning construction. It's a friendly group of folks who thrive on helping others. There are about 5-20 messages posted to the net each day. If you can't find it here, you're not gonna find it. To join, send an empty email message to
krnet-join@list.krnet.org You'll receive a "confirmation" email within a minute or so, to which you must reply for your subscription to take effect. You must be a member to post messages to the list. Again, this is completely free of charge, and we make a point of keeping it "advertising free". Once you are a "confirmed" member, you may make adjustments to your account (using the password sent to you in the confirmation message) such as to change your account to the digest version (which will put all messages into one message per day to reduce email). If you decide you'd like to UNsubscribe, simply send a message to krnet-leave@list.krnet.org . Other information on the list itself and maintenance of your KRnet account can be found at http://list.krnet.org/info.html.

Please search the KRnet Archive for information on specific topics before posting questions to the list. It's considered poor form to join and start asking questions that have already been answered 100 times before.


Jeff Scott, flying his O-200 powered KR2S somewhere near New Mexico..

The "Official" 2014 KR Gathering will be held on Friday September 5th through Saturday September 7th at Chino, California (KCNO), hosted by Steve Glover. More details can be found at www.KRGathering.com a few months before. Usually you can expect about 10-20 KRs to fly in for the Gathering, depending on the weather. 2007 was a record, with 21 flying KRs in attendence. This is THE place to put your hands on real KR aircraft, as well as talk to about a hundred other builders and pilots, so don't miss it! If you're light and lucky, you might just get a ride in one. You won't likely forget it soon either. The die-hards will arrive after lunch on Thursday, the 4th. For an idea of what you'll see at the Gathering, check the links below.

The links below feature various KR projects under construction to provide some insight into the KR building process. There are also links to finished and flying KRs, just in case you need a little inspiration. You can also search the KRnet website for keywords:

only search the KRnet website

KR2S Projects under Construction:

  • Mark Langford's highly modified KR2S and Online Builder's Manual (flying, but still under construction!)
  • Don Reid's radical KR2XL
  • Lynn Hyder's narrowed "1930's" KR2
  • Dave Mullins' KRXL3
  • Stefan Belatchev's French KR2S
  • Tim Brown's KR2S
  • Argentina's Eduardo Barros' radical fuselage KR2
  • a newer Eduardo Barros' KR2 site
  • Bob Lee's KR2
  • Herbert Fürle's KR2S
  • Kobus de Wet's KR2
  • Steve Andersen's KR2S
  • Dean Cooper'sKR2S
  • Ed Blocher's KR2S
  • Eric Pitts' "Dr. Dean" KR2S
  • Jaco Swanepoel's South African KR2S
  • Sid Woods' KR2
  • Kenneth Gerow's KR2
  • John Godwin's KR2S
  • Rick Farley's KR2S
  • Josh Choitz's KR2S
  • Darren Crompton's KR2S
  • Scott Watt's "KR Super 2"
  • Wayne Bone's Australian KR2S+
  • Dubi Gefen's Isreali KR2S
  • Carlos Carvalho's Brazillian KR2
  • T & S Holland KR-2S
  • Paul Smith's Aussie KR-2S
  • Craig Williams' Seafury-like KR2S
  • Sean Duggan's KR2S
  • Bob Johnson's KR2SSW
  • Bernie Wunder's KR2S
  • Peter Drake's Welch KR2S
  • Robert Pesak's highly modified KR2S
  • Jon Kimmel's highly modified KR2S
  • Alberto Zorsi's Italian KR2S
  • Seth Jersild's KR2S
  • Hennie van Rooyen's KR2
  • Chris Pryce's KR2S
  • Mike Sylvester's KR2S

    Completed KRs, with most recent completions at the bottom:

  • N133RM, built by Roy Marsh, and reputed to be the prototype KR2S
  • Bobby Muse's KR2
  • Rudi Venter's South African ZS-VYZ
  • Lester Palmer's KR2
  • Troy Petteway's KR2
  • Ken Thomas's KR2S
  • Bill Reents' KR1
  • Jim Hill's KR2 N58DR
  • David Stuart's KR2S (New Zealand)
  • Steve Trentman's turbine powered KR2T
  • Graham Schott's KR2 (Australia)
  • Joe Beyer's KR2
  • Orma Robbins' KR2
  • Petros Avramidis' Greek KR2
  • Dean Selby's KR2S
  • Chris Gardiner's Canadian KR2S
  • Owen MacPherson's Canadian KR2 C-GGFW
  • Kevin Kelly's KR100
  • Bill Crawford's KR2S
  • Charlie Reeves' KR2
  • Christian Kogelmann's KR2S
  • Jim Faughn's KR2
  • Willie Wilson's KR2
  • Ken Atkinson's British KR2
  • Larry Flesner's 0-200 powered KR2S
  • Steve Jones' award winning KR2
  • Antonio Simone's KR1, Argentina
  • Steve Makish's KR2
  • Bill Page's KR2
  • Bill Clapp's KR2S
  • Mark Jones' KR2S
  • Mark Langford's highly modified KR2S
  • Pat Russo's KR2
  • Jeff York's KR2
  • Jeff Scott's KR2S
  • Joe Horton's KR2S
  • Serge Vidal's South African KR2
  • Phil Bookman's British KR2
  • John Martindale's Aussie KR2S
  • Jose Luis' Argentine KR2
  • Dan Heath's KR2
  • Phil Matheson's KR2
  • Marcel Driessen's KR2S
  • Pete Brautigam's KR2S
  • Rob Schmitt's KR2S
  • Chip Vaughn's KR2
  • Jim Raleigh's KR2
  • Ken Jones' KR2 "Porkopolis Pig"
  • David Goodmans' KR2S
  • Benito Baldominos Baldominos' Spanish "KR2SB"
  • Rick Human's KR2
  • Brad Ankerstar's KR2
  • Rudi Venter's South African KR2
  • Robert Gill's Australian KR2

    Events

  • '94 Columbia, TN Gathering photos
  • '95 Columbia, TN Gathering photos
  • '96 Pine Bluff, Arkansas Gathering photos
  • '97 Perry, OK Gathering photos
  • '98 Columbia, TN "East Coast Gathering" photos
  • '98 Perry, OK Gathering photos
  • '99 Lake Barkley, KY Gathering photos
  • 2000 Oshkosh photos
  • 2000 Lake Barkley, KY Gathering photos
  • 2001 Oshkosh photos
  • 2001 Pine Bluff, Arkansas KR Gathering photos .
  • 2002 Red Oak, Iowa KR Gathering photos .
  • 2003 Red Oak, Iowa KR Gathering photos.
  • 2004 Mount Vernon Gathering photos.
  • 2005 Mount Vernon Gathering photos.
  • 2006 Mount Vernon Gathering photos by EL Miller and Glenda McElwee.
  • 2008 KR Gathering photos
  • 2009 and more recent KR Gathering photos

    There is a KRnet FAQ that is full of building tips which you may visit without joining. There is a lot of stuff there, so please check it out before asking the same old questions on KRnet.

    There's a very informative "KR Performace" spreadsheet ) in web viewable HTML form that details performance numbers (speed, stall, weight, prop, engine, carb, etc) of many of today's flying KRs. The Excel spreadsheet version KR Info, so if you'd like to add a line or update yours, please send it to Mark Langford for inclusion into the Performance Spreadsheet

    There is a directory of US KR builders located at http://krnet.scottstanton.us/cgi-bin/krnet_list.pl .

    There is a KRnet member's "Yearbook", including links to their projects, for quick reference. It's way out of date, but maybe I can do something with it soon.

    The KRnet Archives is run by John Bouyea, and has almost all of KRnet's correspondence since the earliest days.

    The KRnet list archive site is a list of all email messages posted in the last few years, listed chronologically.

    A low-drag airfoil was recently designed specifically for the KR2S in a cooperative effort between several KRnetters and the University of Illinois. See details at the AS504x Airfoil Site

    Dan Heath has posted several KR Weight and Balance spreadsheets, among other things.


    The KR Newsletter was published as a means to discuss ideas, building and flying techniques, etc. Issues 1-114 are posted on the KR Newsletter page, and the rest of the 27 years of KR Newsletters issues are in the works.



    This is South African KR2, ZS-VYZ, originally built by Martin Clark in 1985, owned by Ferdi Koekemoer when this was taken, and now owned by Rudi Venter. It is fitted with a 2400cc turbocharged and intercooled Volkswagen as well as a 59inch Hoffman in-flight adjustable prop. I must say it has aged well, for a 24 year old airplane! For more details, see Rudi's ZS-VYZ page

    Don Reid has scanned and posted all known Sport Aviation articles dealing featuring KRs. While you're there, check out the rest of his highly engineered KR-2XL!

    Rick Junkin, a professional F-15 test pilot, has published a KR2S Flight Test Plan especially for the KR2S. You'd be crazy not to read this before flight testing your KR. This is truly excellent work!

    If you are getting ready to make your first flight, be sure to check out Jim Faughn's "How to make a Perfect KR Landing" site.

    Rob Schmitt has posted a KR2S Pilot Operating Handbook, provided as a template for others to use.

    KROnline is a FREE online electronic KR Newsletter devoted to sharing information with other KR builders and pilots in a timely manner. It is chock full of valuable information gained from the experience of many web oriented KR builders. Check it out!

    There's a Word document that details KR accidents listed in the FAA's database, at http://www.n56ml.com/KRaccidents.doc , although it is several years old and use an update.

    There is also a "CorvAircraft" list devoted to the Corvair engines in aircraft. You may subscribe by visiting http://mylist.net/listinfo/corvaircraft and subscribing online, or simply by sending an email to corvaircraft-join@mylist.net. . There are several Corvair experts on the list, and experimenters who are flying behind Corvairs in KRs, Pietpenpols, Zeniths, and Sonex's (Cleanex), and working to install them in several other homebuilt aircraft.

    Rick Maddy's excellent CorvAircraft Search Engine is located at http://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch . There's a LOT more info on my Corvair webpage at Corvair webpage.

    There is an alternative aircraft engine list devoted to the use of VW and 1/2 VW engines, as well as other automotive and motorcycle engines, in aircraft. For information on how to join, as well as access to their archives, visit the VW Aircraft Engine List Webpage. This is very good stuff for those interested in Volkswagen engines especially.


    John Martindale of Australia, in formation with ...


    Suppliers of KR parts:

    nVAero, LLC, 23052H Alicia Parkway #413, Mission Viejo, CA 92692 (800.515.4811)
    Official supplier of KR parts, blessed by Rand Robinson. Manufacturer of the composite KR1, KR2 and KR2S parts, mechanical assemblies such as flap mechanism and control sticks, canopies, KR plans,, and kits.

    Great Plains Aircraft, P.O. Box 545, Boystown, NE 68010 (402) 493-6507
    VW based aircraft powerplants and accessories. Lots of good stuff that can't be found anywhere else, and at reasonable prices.

    Corvair (Aircraft Engine) Authority, 5000-18 HWY 17 #247, Orange Park, FL 32003. (904) 529-0006
    Corvair Conversion Manual, and all the parts to do the job.

    Tracy O'Brien, LLC, 156 Bunker Creek Road, Chehalis, WA 98532 360-748-4089
    Supplier of KR-sized aircraft brake systems.

    Grove Aircraft Company, 1860 Joe Crosson Drive, El Cajon, CA 92020, (1-888-432-7534)
    Aluminum landing gear for KR aircraft

    Ed Sterba Props, 513 68 Street, Holmes Beach, FL 34217, (941)-778-3103.
    Wooden propellers for VWs and Corvairs. Props Inc., (541)-265-3032,
    Wooden propellers for VWs and Corvairs, by Jeff Bertuleit.

    Revmaster Aviation, 7146 Sante Fe Avenue East, Hesperia, CA 92345 (760) 244-3074
    VW based aircraft powerplants and accessories, cowlings

    Wicks Aircraft, , 410 Pine St., Highland, IL 62249 (618) 654-7447
    KR kits and components and many other aircraft parts, and my personal favorite (except their web site's obtuse).

    Aircraft Spruce and Specialty, 201 W. Truslow Ave., Fullerton, CA 92632 (800) 824-1930
    KR kits and components and many other aircraft parts

    Wag Aero, 1216 North Road, Lyons, WI, 53148 (800) 558-6868
    Wide selection of certified and homebuilt aircraft parts

    Zenith Fuel Systems,
    Carburetor source

    Ellison Fluid Systems,
    Carburetor source (one of the best, and most expensive).

    Aero-Carb,
    Another slide carburetor source (new on the scene and relatively inexpensive).

    Advanced Composite Materials,
    The most inexpensive source I know of to buy 5.85 ounce 48" wide carbon fiber ($17 per yard).

    Sport Flyer's Internet Resources
    Everything else you'd ever need to find to build an airplane...

    Related sites:

  • Mark Lougheed's Dragonfly canopy page (excellent!)
  • NACA Document Library Online!
  • Michele Boland's Aviation Page
  • N-Number Database
  • Sport Flyer's Internet Resources
  • AvWeb
  • Landings.com
  • Bob Hoover's "sermons" on VW engines
  • Bob Hoover's Blog
  • Hoax and Virus web site (not really related, but some KRnetters need to visit here before posting about the latest scare!).


    This is Joe Horton's 3100cc Corvair powered KR2S as seen at the 2006 KR Gathering. Photo by Dave Mullins (the guy with the huge honkin' lense!).
    This is Larry Flesner's 0-200 powered KR2S, which Larry built before the KR2S plans were available. The whole plane is "upsized" a little to meet Larry's 6'-4" frame, and there's still plenty of headroom left! The workmanship is outstanding, and this plane gave my 2700cc Corvair a good run for the money. I took this picture on the way to the Wicks open house in 2010, where we met Ron Highower, EAA's new president.
    Mark Jones in his "Deer Slayer" KR2S, on the way to Oshkosh for Airventure 2009.


    This is Richard Shirley's KR-1. This thing is nothing short of totally awesome, and his piloting skills are incredible, as well. There are more photos and details located on the 2001 KR Gathering web page.


    Jim Hill's KR2 doing 200mph flyby at Hazel Green airport, trying to get a better look at the windsock. Jim's KR2 has now been stretched and converted to tri-gear.


    Here's Netherlander Marcel Driessen flying his KR2S.


    This is Marty Roberts in his 0-200 powered KR2. I took this picture from Jim Faughn's equally nice KR2.


    This is Rick Lanning's KR2, the oldest flying KR, originally built by Dan Diehl in 1976.


    Steve Glover flew his flawless KR2 all the way from California to make the 2004 Gathering.
    This is Troy Petteway's O-200 powered KR2. It will do 230 mph flat out, mostly because of attention to aerodynamic detail. A careful study of this photo will show you how this plane differs from most other KRs. He is also flying the new AS504x airfoil.


    This is Aussie Allen Buzza in his retractable KR2, flying formation with Peter Gilbert in his BD5 over Fremantle Harbor near Perth.


    Nasser's United Arab Emirates KR2.


    John Shaffer's "KR2SS" (super stretch) has retractable tri gear, and looks very sweet in flight. This is his second KR, and like many others, has a lot of neat ideas implemented in this one. There are more photos of it at 2004 MVN KR Gathering web page.


    Here's Marty Roberts, Steve Alderman, and Jim Faughn flying formation near the Red Oak Iowa airport during the 2003 KR Gathering. There are lots more photos located on the 2003 KR Gathering web page.


    This is Joe Horton's airplane at Sun N Fun 2010. Steve Glover sent this to me to show how much hotter Joe's plane seemed to be that year...


    Sorry if there aren't enough bells and whistles for you on this page. I've tried to keep loading time to a minimum. As a former 2400 modem user, I'm accutely aware of the price we pay loading so many superfluous images, fonts, audio, and video flotsam and jetsam that all too often replace plain text. And while others are downloading annoying flashing banners and advertisements to you, I'm downloading helpful information for you.

    This web site was established by Mark Langford in 1994, and was the very first site dealing with any of the KR series of aircraft, or even experimental aircraft, for that matter. Please report broken links or offer constructive criticism to Mark at krnet-owner@mylist.net.

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    The "welcome to the list" message asks for some personal information to help me verify that you are a real KRnetHead, and not just a spammer. If you've never sent that info to me, please do. If you're one of the regulars, I already know who you are, so don't bother. After the intial signup period of about a week, I'll be asking all new subscribers for that info. It will go no further than me, and will not ever be used for anything other than verification purposes.

    Thanks, Mark Langford, ml "at" N56ML.com